On-Street Parking Charges
Business/Public Responses |
Windermere & Bowness Chamber of Trade are opposed to the Cumbria
County Council's proposals for 'on-street' parking charges in the format
currently set out.
However The Chamber of Trade acknowledges that not all its membership or
the businesses in Bowness and Windermere are
against the idea and that the views expressed below do not reflect ALL
of the membership.
Barry Butler's letter to Cllr. McCreesh
- 6 July 2014
Cumbria County Council's letter to the
Windermere Town Council
On-Street Parking and Permit Changes -
15 May 2014
On-Street Charging - 3 April 2014
The Chamber of Trade has a number of
concerns over these proposals: corre
by CCC of up to 20% on what is already in place.
Would SLDC follow
How are the
charges to be collected. We still do not know for certain.
Siting of the pay
what happens to a
person who wants to pop in and buy a newspaper or do a 10 minute
the impact on
impact on the staff of local
Chamber of Trade is also still waiting sight of any "economic impact
report" that should have been done. Unfortunately the local County
Councillor does not agree and is quoted as saying:
"Shopkeepers and tradesmen will think it might prove a disincentive
to visit towns but I think that is misjudged and exaggerated."
Chamber of Trade wrote to the councillor concerned and below is his
for your email sent on behalf of the Chamber of Trade. I will respond to
your points as set out:-
My comments represent my own opinion and are based on my judgment and
reasoning. When deciding where to shop, my first thought is not
"will I be able to park the car for nothing?", but rather "will I be
able to get what I want, and will it be a pleasant experience?" If I am
in an unfamiliar town, I am not deterred from stopping by the prospect
of paying a modest charge on street or in a car park. I expect to do so,
and am surprised, admittedly pleasantly, when it is not required. What
does put me off is traffic congestion and not being able to find
anywhere to park when I get there. I am not therefore going to stop
driving to Bowness, Ambleside, Keswick and the other towns simply
because I may have to pay a small fee to park the car. Because I live
close to the centre of Windermere village I will probably avoid taking
the car in and walk instead, which will be a benefit both to the village
and to me. My point is that yes, there may be a number a behavioural
adjustments that people will make to suit their personal circumstances -
car sharing, timing, walking, delivery etc. No rational person is going
to drive to Kendal, where they will probably have to pay
anyway, to save themselves some small change. But my principal thought
is this - we live in arguably the most attractive place in the whole of
England. If we offer people what they want, welcome them properly and
treat them with respect then we will undoubtedly thrive and prosper. The
idea that people will only come if we offer them free parking is, in my
view, misconceived and delusional. We are much better than that. As FDR
said, "We have nothing to fear....".
is no requirement to conduct an economic assessment. However, looking at
studies elsewhere, effective traffic management has had a positive
effect by increasing the turnover of cars after it was introduced.
Before deciding where and how to introduce the experimental traffic
regulation orders (TROs), CCC, or specifically the South Lakes local
committee, would welcome input from businesses and residents. It might
be useful therefore for you to communicate with the local Highways and
Transportation manager to let him know your specific concerns. He can be
firstname.lastname@example.org In addition, as the TROs are
experimental it is intended to assess their impact before making them
see 2 above.
I am very
happy to meet with you to discuss these matters at a time to suit.
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Barry Butler's reply in the capacity of Chair:
Thank you for your own
thoughts on the matter of parking meters it is interesting to know where
people are coming from on this matter.
You are in a good
position with good health, living within a few hundred meters of the
shops and no doubt with a reasonable disposable income.
I do walk in to the
shops but live further out than yourself.
However there are many
residents that are unable to do this and rely on parking close to the
shops to nip into the post office and other shops and be away in ten
minutes. Some of these will not have the disposable income to keep
spending on parking fees. Some do not have the level of fitness required
to walk in from their homes and qualify for blue badges either.
However if it is the
intention that the first hour is free on the parking meters then this
will not be a problem.
I need to call in at
the estate agents to collect and return keys and the thought of having
to pay at parking meters to do this annoys me.
We do not mind paying
a reasonable amount for parking but the charges within the Lake District
are unreasonable and the Chamber gets a number of complaints from
visitors each year.
Ashford in Kent with
their car parks charge 80p per hour with £3.20 for over 4 hours and
these I consider to be reasonable. This is a fair size centre popular
with shoppers and tourists and a out of town centre as well.
York charge 30p per
hour on some of their car parks and £1.00 for 3 hours. The car park by
Clifford Tower/Museum is £2.30 per hour for non residents and £2.10 for
residents but most of their car parks are cheaper than this.
If we can reduce the
car parking charges in the Lakes to these sort of levels then they will
be full and there would be fewer complaints from residents and visitors
and businesses may then see a higher foot fall.
The comments we have
received this year from businesses are that the visitors that are here
are not spending in the shops, cafes and restaurants whether they are
day trippers or staying over night.
We need to ensure that
the visitors do have money to spend in the local businesses otherwise
more will close.
We need to encourage
visitors to come and make it a pleasant environment and to do this we
need more cheaper car parks and easy on street parking. If the traffic
wardens were effective then the turnover of on street parking would be
Many of the staff
employed locally travel in and we need to ensure that there is
reasonable parking for them as many are on the basic wage and cannot
afford to spend their first hours wage on parking.
I understood that you
were on the council to represent the views of the local residents and
Could you please
provide me with the Email addresses of the councillors on the South
Lakes local committee?
We will be pleased to
discuss this with Nick Raymond and others that are involve in the
decision making but it is a wider subject than just on street parking
Chair of Windermere
and Bowness Chamber of Trade
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22 May 2014
Barry Butler send the following email to
Cllr. John McCreesh, Chair of the
County's Local Committee for South Lakeland.
Dear Mr McCreesh.
We have been advised by Jo Stephenson to
contact you regarding the proposed on street parking charges for
Windermere and Bowness.
We would be pleased to meet with you and
the officers in charge, Nick Raymond at the earliest convenient time to
hear your proposals and to voice our concerns as to the effect on
businesses and residents and see what maybe agreed.
I noticed a comment attached to the
minutes of the meeting on 15 May 2014 about restrictions all year on the
Glebe Road and would be pleased to know what is happening here.
We had long discussions with Steve
Ratcliffe, who had consulted the County Council and Sldc, last year
about the removal of some parking spaces on the basis that there would
be no changes to the rest of the parking on Glebe Road apart from the
creation of additional chevron style parking by Shepherds.
I await to hear from you.
Chair - Windermere and Bowness Chamber of Trade
Cllr. McCreesh's reply:
Thanks for your email, and sorry for the
delay in replying. It's been a busy period for those of us involved in
I chair the County's Local Committee for
South Lakeland, and it might be useful to explain the Committee's role
in the rollout of on-street parking charges. I attach the relevant page
from the papers of the Cabinet meeting on the 15th - the table in 4.18
shows clearly what the Local Committee can and cannot do.
At the moment, there is work ongoing on
the items over which the Local Committee does have discretion. Local
members in the relevant towns have been working with Highways officers,
and local residents and groups, to firm up the list of streets and
discuss the most appropriate charging regime for their areas. The
results of this work will be fed back to a future meeting of the Local
Committee for approval.
I believe Cllr Stephenson has offered to
meet you at a mutually convenient time to discuss these local
implementation issues with yourselves. I would recommend this as the
most useful way to engage with the process at the moment.
Obviously, as a Kendal resident, I'm not
as familiar with your local issues as Cllr Stephenson. However, I am
happy to meet if you think it would be useful. Please note I will be on
holiday for the first two weeks in June.
When the matter comes back to Local
Committee, you are of course very welcome to attend under the Council's
public participation scheme (copy also attached). However, I would
recommend that any representations, questions, etc are directed at
issues over which the Local Committee has discretion.
Hope this helps.
County Councillor for Kendal Strickland and Fell
tel: 01539 720849
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Chamber of Trade have written, on May 18th 2014, to the Westmorland
Gazette over these concerns and it will be published in the
29th May edition.
There are plans to get as many local
shops as possible to put up Posters together with handing out flyers and
putting them through doors.
The responses from the businesses and
members of the public appertaining to the On-Street Parking Charges can
be found by clicking here!
The Windermere & Bowness Chamber of Trade
would remind people that the views expressed on this page are not
necessarily those of the whole membership.
Westmorland Gazette Articles
Should you have any comments to make
regarding these proposals, please send them to
Adrian G Faulkner - Secretary, Windermere & Bowness Chamber of